Firefly III vs Sure

TaglineSelf-hosted personal finance manager with budgets, rules, and bank importPersonal finance app for everyone — a maintained fork of Maybe
CategoryFinance & BudgetingFinance & Budgeting
ReplacesMint, YNAB, QuickBooksMint, YNAB
GitHub stars24k8.7k
LanguagePHPDocker
LicenseAGPL-3.0AGPL-3.0
Self-host difficulty
3/5
Moderate
3/5
Moderate
Deploy options
Docker
Docker Compose
Manual
Docker
Docker Compose
Manual
Managed hosting
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Where each falls short

The honest trade-offs — what you give up with each, versus the proprietary tools they replace.

Firefly III
  • Bank import requires a separate importer container and CSV/OFX manipulation; no one-click bank sync
  • UI can feel complex and verbose for casual users compared to Mint's simplicity
  • No built-in mobile app; third-party apps exist but vary in quality
  • Investment and brokerage account tracking is limited compared to dedicated wealth tools
Sure
  • Community fork with a smaller contributor base; long-term maintenance cadence is uncertain
  • Bank connection / Plaid integration requires API credentials and is US-centric
  • No mobile native app; web-only interface
  • Budgeting and envelope features less developed compared to YNAB or Actual

Bottom line

Both are a similar lift to self-host; choose Firefly III for the larger community and ecosystem. Open each guide below for deploy steps and the full feature gap.

Firefly III

Self-hosted personal finance manager with budgets, rules, and bank import

Sure

Personal finance app for everyone — a maintained fork of Maybe